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How do we respond? As lovingly as we can. We really have done our homework and researched the roots of the SDA's (would that our Adventist critics take the time to do their own research!). Where most people have difficulty is in our quotes from the writings of Ellen G. White and others who were once in leadership. Remember, if the leaders at any time claimed to "speak for God", or to just be His "Messenger" then they are acting in the role of a "prophet" and are therefore subject to the Biblical tests relating to that role (please go to the Help Topics on the Site Index Page for more detailed information). Simply, where those that are critical of us are wrong, is that they have not even bothered to check the sources we have quoted (in particular the editions quoted from -- as later/more recent editions have been changed and sanitised to hide the errors the embarrassments that we raise), nor have our critics read fully from the site Help Topics to understand where it is that we are coming from in our ability to boldy label a group as a cult! True Christians don't suffer from 'knee-jerk' reactions! Christians are people who act, not react! Most who react do not follow the principle from Acts 17:10-12!
Many SDA's are unaware that their own publications contain the quotes in this article. The SDA missionary who comes to you, or the ones with whom you come into contact through their Health/Stress/Quit Smoking Programs, etc., are not very well informed of their own Church's origins (of course they strongly dispute this statement, but one must remember that they have been 'spoon fed' their understandings of their church's history). However, they are a loyal and zealous people, admirable citizens, and they have a practical welfare movement throughout the world. E.B. Price of the Greater Sydney Conference of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, says: "The story of Seventh-day Adventist growth and organisation is a thrilling one in a world where the Christian faith is declining. Using every possible means available to reach mankind, they [the SDA's] are found preaching in the largest public halls, or in the remotest jungle villages. Each week their voice is heard on over 7,000 radio and television stations, which belt the globe. From 445 branch offices, millions of pieces of literature in 203 languages are distributed from their 50 publishing houses, as they are posted or taken personally from door-to-door. In 38,000 Sabbath Schools and thousands more Branch and Vacation Bible Schools, Bible truth is taught, and a further outreach to young people is made through their 5,000 day schools, colleges and universities. They also follow the example of Christ, who went about doing good, with a very practical ministry of helping to alleviate suffering through their 345 clinics and hospitals, where healing is brought to millions. Millions more in distress are helped each year in their welfare work outlined in the Bible for Christians." The fruit that Jesus tells us to judge in Matthew 7:16 is NOT the fruit of some charitable organisation, or in this case, the SDA social welfare programme, nor the large number of churches and subsidiary organisations, nor is He referring to the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said to judge PROPHETS on the fruit of their prophecies, i.e., did their prophecies come to pass? If not, then they are 'false prophets'! E.B. Price goes on to say: "A last warning message is to be given to the world. This witness outlined in Revelation 14:6-12 is a world-wide preaching of the gospel, which among its other distinctive features, calls out people to keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. A small group of people believing God had called them to do this work, organised themselves into the Seventh-day Adventist Church in 1863, and since that time have spread throughout the world to become one of the most vigorous and fastest growing churches. By 1960, they had over a million members, and within the next 13 years they doubled this membership. Today they number well over [8,600,000] baptised adult members, speaking [about 600] languages and spread throughout practically every country of the world. Hundreds of thousands continue to swell their ranks each year." So, the SDA believes he is part of the "Remnant Church" specifically tasked with fulfilling "God's will for the world" at this time. Note also that in Price's reasoning, which is typical of all SDA's, he tries to influence his reader that the diversity and size of the 'works' of the SDA Church MUST be proof of God's backing! (In fact the JW's and even many in the Christian Church wrongly take this point of view -- numbers mean nothing!).
The Roots: Let's examine the roots of this small group of people who believe they are 'the remnant' church! Did God really call them? If this was not God, then who did call them? At this point, I'd like to point out that some publications from both the SDA's and the Jehovah's Witness organisations would appear to trace their origins from the same source. However, neither organisation will admit to this claim. No doctrinal issues are considered in this effort on tracing the SDA source, but the notes on the Jehovah's Witnesses contain the relevant data on related prophetic material, and especially, doctrinal similarities. When confronted by these people, we should show love towards them, and have a desire to see them attain to eternal life. If you cannot witness in love, do not embarrass the Gospel. Keep in mind that the real fault for the deception is with those who control the organisation, not with the individual. The leaders are those who deceive the individual. With this in view, it is necessary to discover clearly and quickly where the beliefs of the organisation originated. It is wisdom not to debate biblical doctrine on these issues, for these people are as entitled to their biblical interpretation as you are to yours. But the issue to be clarified here is, are they following a prophet of the true God? Were their prophecies fulfilled and were they scripturally based? Are they really God's spokesmen as they claim?
The SDA organisation endeavours to play down the early dates of E.G. White, as she herself also did in later times. But her earlier writings clearly give the later-forgotten [or ignored] prophetical dates. The SDA organisation, no matter how you look at it, evolved out of a group called the "Millerites"; however, they do not like being associated with this group, because of Miller's failed predictions for the "coming of Jesus" for which he named specific dates, and which failure consequently brought discredit to him and his followers. In "Early Writings", Letter No. 38, 1889, Ellen G. White on knowing the time of the end says:
From "Selected Messages", Book 1, p. 60, she states:
Until recently, there were no early copies available for reference. One
original is now available. It is titled "A Word to the Little Flock", by
James White, Ellen's husband. [SDA's will deny that Ellen G. White ever
claimed
an exact date of Christ's return]. Let us turn to the original printings -- not the revised
editions -- of "A Word to the Little Flock", p.
22, by James White (1847) Let her [Ellen G. White] speak for herself:
Note: The following is omitted from later editions: "... until we heard the voice of God like many waters which gave us the day and the hour of Jesus' coming. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spake the time, he poured on us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God as Moses' did when he came down from Mt. Sinai." What was the date Ellen G. White claimed and was waiting for? From the same book, "A Word to the Little Flock", p. 22, 1847 edition, by her husband, James White:
1. She did hold a date of Christ's return (which was false); 2. That no one could be saved after 1844, and evidence of this is found in "Selected Messages", Book 1, p. 63.
Remember, today's followers of Seventh-day Adventism believe Ellen G. White to be a true prophet of God (indeed, if they do not believe this, they are then not true Seventh-day Adventists!). On what evidence can this statement be based?
Who are the keepers of "the other sabbath" and who does Ellen G. White consider as the rival power of page 186, paragraph 1? She answers these questions in "Spiritual Gifts", Vol. 1, p. 189, where she refers back to paragraph 4.
Not all SDA believers realise these visions are claimed by Mrs. White herself to be from God. The SDA's claim that she got the Seventh-day Adventist teaching from one Joseph Bates. In "Origin and Progress" -- The Sanctuary and the Sabbath, p. 187, we read:
Concerning the 'seventh-day sabbath' (Saturday), if Joseph Bates, a man influenced by the Seventh-day Baptists who joined Miller in 1840, is correct, and Ellen G. White's vision of Quote 12, paragraph 4, was of God and confirms his teaching, then E.G. White's vision of Quote 13 is either true or E.G. White was deceived. If a true vision, and as the present SDA organisation claims that Ellen G. White is a true prophet, then all other churches ARE ... corrupt ... possessed by satan -- "their professions, prayers and exhortations are an abomination in the sight of God." If this is a false vision, then can her other visions be relied upon? The Bible says that one false prophecy makes one false prophet, Deuteronomy 18:20-21. Can the SDA's now, without any doubt, claim her to be a true prophet?
or a true prophet and all other churches are corrupt and satanic? Can we prove Ellen G. White made false prophecies or had false visions? It is not the intention here to go into minute detail, as the they can be followed up by the serious student. Quoted in "The Great Controversy", under the heading "An American Reformer", pp. 332-333, is the following:
Ellen G. White herself states in "Early Writings", pp. 232-233:
What was E.G. White's view of Miller's teaching? The following is taken from "Life Sketches: Parentage and Early Life", pp. 136-137:
From the same publication, pp. 148-149, we read Mrs. White's words:
The coming of Christ did not take place in 1843; therefore, was E.G. White (at the time 'Harmon') victim of a deceiving spirit, or was it just error on the part of a young girl? I quote once again from "Life Sketches" pp. 186-187:
Confirmation of the above is also stated from "Origin and Progress: Spiritual Gifts", p. 173:
So, did God change His mind? or was E.G. White's confirming vision of Miller's date false, for continuing on, we read:
In the above publication, "Origin and Progress" p173, it is quoted: "... and these were soon able to discover the mistake in the reckoning, and look to the fulfilment of their hopes in the Autumn of 1844." What mistake? Again God is here clearly given the blame for the 1843 failure in the book "Early Writings -- The Gathering Time", p. 74:
To what chart did E.G. White refer? To the chart mentioned in Quote 23? We must establish this chart securely for it proves William Miller never claimed he saw a vision, or that God told him the dates. He worked them out on this chart. He was merely in error. On the chart his starting point can clearly be seen as a Bible reference to Daniel's 70 weeks and the 2,300 days. (Daniel 9:25; Ezra 7:7) It is quite clear that E.G. White was not a young girl in error, for she verified BY PROPHECY that the chart was from God (Quote 23), and that the Lord's coming in 1843 and 1844 were direct prophecies from God. The date on the chart and then the corrected date never did come to pass. This proves beyond all doubt that E.G. White is a self-convicted FALSE PROPHET. It must be stated again that if E.G. White is NOT a false prophet, then her visions and prophecy from God (Quote 11) are true. That is to say, every other church not keeping the Saturday sabbath* is CORRUPT and IN THE POSSESSION OF SATAN. Their professions, their prayers and their exhortations are an ABOMINATION in the sight of God (see Quote 13). It is stated that E.G. White has had hundreds of visions and admittedly, many things she said did come true -- why? because one is reasonably on 'safe-ground' to predict that there will be earthquakes, famines, pestilence, etc...according to Matthew 24! However, don't forget that with a true prophet, all prophecies must be fulfilled. The SDA organisation has claimed at times that they were not originally "Millerites." They also play down the early life and prophecies of E.G. White. Is this done so that her early prophecies, which were absolute failures, will not be prominent? Subsequently, the SDA publication "Midnight Cry", p. 485, says:
However, another statement showing the Millerite link with the SDA's is made by Francis D. Nichol, published by the "Review and Herald", p. 10:
Was Ellen G. White a Millerite? Did she, and not Miller himself, confirm by prophecy (a vision from God) that Miller's chart and dates were correct and from God? Did E.G. White confirm by prophecy a vision from God that the teaching of Joseph Bates was correct and from God? Did E.G. White state that by vision from God, all other churches are corrupt, satanic and an abomination? That the door of grace was closed by God in 1844 (and only those who keep the Saturday sabbath can now be saved)? The answer to all these questions is a resounding YES! Do you know that the SDA who speaks to you does not know these facts from their own literature? They are genuinely deceived. Handle them lovingly and gently. Remember, TRUTH can be injurious if not ministered in love. The SDA will try to do to you what has been done to him: they will continually bring in Bible doctrine to prove their point. In speaking with an SDA, initially it's best to adhere to the prophetic material, and not discuss doctrine. If they cannot see Ellen G. White as a false prophet, then of course they must see her as a true prophet, and consequently, see your church as corrupt, satanic and an abomination to God (see Quote 13). Remember the SDA organisation themselves admit Miller's dates were incorrect, and endeavour to disassociate themselves (i.e. Ellen G. White) from involvement with the Millerites, hence their claim that Ellen G. White was just a young girl during Miller's time. The SDA witness will not deny their personal belief in Ellen G. White and therefore, are deceived. Has Jesus' warning in Matthew 7:15 been fulfilled? "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves"! As said before, a prophet is one who claims to speak for another. If these people speak for Ellen G. White, then they are prophets of Ellen G. White! If they claim to be Christians and hold to Ellen G. White as a prophet, then they are also claiming that you, as a Christian are deceived; for God showed their prophet, Ellen G. White, in a vision that you are corrupt, satanic and your prayers, etc., are an abomination in the sight of God! How can it be proven beyond all doubt that Ellen G. White is a false prophet? Jesus tells us how in Matthew 7:16, "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes off thorns, or figs off thistles?." This verse shows that you shall know an orange tree by its oranges (fruit); a prophet by their prophecies (fruit) -- a false prophet bears false prophecies (fruit). Do you get figs (true prophecies) from thistles (false prophets)? No!! We must examine a prophet's prophecies only, never their doctrines. (It is a False Teacher who is examined by his doctrine).
So, if SDA's claim they are Christians, and you are a Christian -- then why are they trying to convert YOU? Because of their belief of Ellen G. White's vision in Quote 13? Jesus has already said that false prophets will come to you in sheep's (Christians') clothing. The sheep's skin on this 'Ellen G. White wolf' is very thick...
Jesus said that false prophets would look like a sheep, therefore they would have to act like a sheep -- baa like a sheep, smell like a sheep, even say they follow the right shepherd, Jesus. But this 'Jesus' of the SDA's is not the Jesus of the Evangelical Church! SDA's believe that Jesus, the Son of God, is MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL. This statement is taken from: "Questions on Doctrine", p. 71, Question 8; "Spiritual Gifts", Vol. 4a, p. 58; "Prophets and Kings", p. 572; "Desire of Ages", p. 99; and "Story of Redemption", p. 173. Scriptures tell us that satan appears as an ANGEL of Light. Could this be the ANGEL Ellen G. White saw and was guided by? Do you know Christ as a Person or as an Angel? And do you believe in Hell, as Jesus taught? SDA's don't! Get to know your Bible, a "lamp" to guide you; read and study it often. The Word is God speaking to you. God and His Word are one. It is our contact with God -- it is His contact with us (John 16:7-10). Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth! (John 16:13). Therefore, knowing the Word is to know the Truth.
You are encouraged to read the following guidelines from the Word: Matthew 7:15-23; Luke 21:8; 2 Peter 2:1-3. These verses are God's own measuring rod. In the light of these verses, how do the SDA's measure up with His standard?
SOME DISTINCTIVE DOCTRINES OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS
Soul Sleep "In the year 1844 I accepted the doctrine we now hold, concerning the non-immortality of the soul, as may be seen by reference to LIFE SKETCHES, pp. 170-171 (1880 edition)." Hypnosis "Ellen G. White early in her experience was cautioned regarding the perils of hypnosis, and in later years, on a number of occasions, she received instruction regarding it." EARLY WRITINGS, p. 298 Why Her Prophecy Failed This is the SDA explanation of E.G. White's failed prophecies: "Thus the work was hindered, and the world was left in darkness. Had the whole Adventist body united the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, how widely different would have been our history." SELECTED MESSAGES 1, p. 299. Slavery will not be Destroyed by Civil War "The system of slavery, which has ruined our nation, is left to live and stir up another rebellion." TESTIMONY FOR THE CHURCH, p. 255
In Conclusion: Mentioned in the letter from the SDA lady which I quoted at the beginning of this page, is the following, "I have the power and authority of Jesus on my side now. His Spirit has united with my spirit and it will lead me straight through to the kingdom where I'll see Jesus. My Christian growth and life has progressed more in the last six months than it has in thirty years. Even my husband is pleased with the change in me at home! But he still gets hostile and forbids me even to say, Praise the Lord. Keep praying for me, please, and especially for my husband." Truly here is a testimony, as Paul's in 2 Timothy 1:12: "Therefore, I suffer as I do, but I am not ashamed, FOR I KNOW WHOM I HAVE BELIEVED, and I am sure that he is able to guard until that day what has been entrusted to Him." Jesus gave us the key when asked by His disciples as to when He was to return, and what would be the sign of His coming: He said: "Take heed that no one leads you astray ... for false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect" (Matthew 24:3-5 and 24) Click here to read a letter of resignation and testimony of one who was an Adventist for 30 years ... |
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